Gregg Kellogg: https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/6b900451-f0a7-46b0-8668-3cc20e0b026c ✪

Gregg Kellogg: Doodle poll for attendance https://doodle.com/meeting/organize/id/aMj3LPBb ✪

Gregg Kellogg: Please indicate on the Doodle poll what hours you might attend, either in person or remote. ✪

Gregg Kellogg: We'll focus on YAML-LD issues in the first couple of hours and move on to other JSON-LD issues and liaison later. ✪

Gregg Kellogg: https://json-ld.org/minutes/2022-07-20/ ✪

Gregg Kellogg: TPAC coming in september, four hour timeslot. Hopefully 2 hours for YAML-LD. Put up a Doodle poll. Organized as hybrid event. ✪

Gregg Kellogg: Without objections, minutes approved. ✪

Gregg Kellogg: https://github.com/json-ld/yaml-ld/projects/1 ✪

Gregg Kellogg: Yaml-ld#65 ✪

Gregg Kellogg: https://github.com/json-ld/yaml-ld/pull/65 ✪

Gregg Kellogg: Without objection merge #56 ✪

Gregg Kellogg: https://github.com/json-ld/yaml-ld/pull/70 ✪

Gregg Kellogg: Converting YAML to internal representation: We shouldn't have to work on, but have to. Comments? No objections. ✪

Benjamin Young: +1 To holding off until further exploration of extended profile happens ✪

Gregg Kellogg: https://github.com/json-ld/yaml-ld/issues/36 ✪

Gregg Kellogg: Serializing JSON or YAML literal in YAML-LD ✪

Gregg Kellogg: Any opinions on how to deal with JSON objects in YAML? ✪

David I. Lehn: I am behind in following the issues to provide meaningful input to conversation. Looks good. ✪

Gregg Kellogg: IMO, the main issue is simply turning YAML into the internal representation. ✪

Gregg Kellogg: Best thing to do is to simplify as far as possible. ✪

Gregg Kellogg: Point of JSON literals is to serialize in RDF and not so much on YAML etc. ✪

Gregg Kellogg: IMO any JSON-lD processor should be able to deal with alias nodes that are not ill formed. ✪

Anatoly Scherbakov: Agree on the main idea of the issue: standard processor must be able to convert JSON-LD to YAML-LD. Also, convenience context is great idea. ✪

Gregg Kellogg: Agree. also vice versa transformation should work as well. ✪

Gregg Kellogg: Context can't be aliased on the first time it is being used, but could be aliased after that, but the group has agreed that it is not necessary ✪

Benjamin Young: `@Context` signals that you're looking at JSON-LD in the same way that `$schema` does for JSON Schema. I'd be opposed to allowing it to be aliased (as I'd also opposed that in the WG) as it's a clear signal and makes processing and finding JSON-LD (and eventually YAML-LD) much simpler (especially if the file extension is generic `.json` and if there is no media type provided) ✪

Anatoly Scherbakov: Group might want to share information on YAML-LD. Should we publish a website to help developers? E.g. including a playground, translation libraries in different languages. Do you think this would be good idea? ✪

Benjamin Young: Promotion is good idea. However, the JSON-LD website is enough, as there is not so much people in the community. We could e.g. enable YAML-LD in the existing JSON-LD playground. ✪

Benjamin Young: +1 For promoting YAML-LD on https://json-ld.org/ (and happy to help make that happen) ✪

Gregg Kellogg: Json-ld.org needs a page for YAML-LD to promote it. Would like to see the playground support YAML-LD and it should be possible. However, yaml-ld.dev might be still useful. Its playground could be a version of the JSON-LD playground. Would anatoly be available to lead the new website? ✪

Anatoly Scherbakov: May not have time and language profiency to implement. Main concern was to ask if there is interest in this. ✪

Gregg Kellogg: The existing page is actually in PHP. Benjamin has experience in this ✪

Gregg Kellogg: A quick search whois yamlld.org is available ✪

Benjamin Young: GitHub Pages is probably not good as technology has evolved. yaml-ld.org was registered in 2018, maybe by someone we know. Also, the semantic web is already filled with dead links because of dead domain names. ✪

Benjamin Young: Json-ld.org has good reputation. But still the community is limited, so concentrating efforts would be good idea. ✪

Benjamin Young: Extending the playground would be most useful effort ✪

Gregg Kellogg: Jsonld.js is now official library for RDF. Would be useful for people to work on it. ✪

Gregg Kellogg: Generate issue on promotion? ✪

Benjamin Young: Issue to create a page for YAML-LD ✪

Gregg Kellogg: I will create some issues ✪

Gregg Kellogg: Anyone not able to attend next time? => no mentions ✪