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Minutes for 2025-09-10

Present
Benjamin Young, Pierre-Antoine Champin, David I. Lehn, Niklas Lindström, Ivan Herman
Chair(s)
Benjamin Young
Scribe(s)
Niklas Lindström, Benjamin Young
Agenda
https://www.w3.org/events/meetings/04e937c0-e751-4c7e-9ba4-5782e0b3d272/20250910T120000/
Topics
  1. Announcements and Introductions
  2. Recharger Next Steps
  3. Open Discussion
Niklas Lindström is scribing.

Topic: Announcements and Introductions

Benjamin Young: Gregg Kellogg passed away this weekend.
Ivan Herman: The least we can do is to put a similar paragraph honoring Gregg.
Benjamin Young: The number of things Gregg contributed to is probably beyond the reach of AI...
Ivan Herman: It's practical to put it in JSON-LD 1.2 but we may get an acknowledgement to put it in JSON-LD 1.1
+100
Benjamin Young: I'd like to get something public now if possible.
Ivan Herman: Me and pchampin can probably get OK for that
Benjamin Young: I can draft probably a PR
Ted Thibodeau Jr.: I would be in favour of putting it in both 1.1 and 1.2
All in agreement.

Topic: Recharger Next Steps

Victor Lu: JSON-LD is very important in a lot of things so I very much appreciate honoring Gregg for this.
Benjamin Young: We all voted in agreement over email.
Ivan Herman: One thing still to do - for bigbluehat to approve the latest version
Benjamin Young: I approve
Pierre-Antoine Champin: As next step I will request horizontal review
https://github.com/w3c/strategy/issues/494 -> Issue 494 [wg/json-ld] JSON-LD Working Group Charter (by plehegar) [Advance Notice Sent] [charter]
Pierre-Antoine Champin: Now the horizontal review gets the requests for this. It may take some weeks, and then we can go to AC review.
... should it take too much time, we might still be able to go forward
Ivan Herman: I presume there will be comments from the horizontal review and/or AC. We till handle them as issues (in the w3c repo).
... please keep an eye on these as they come in.
Benjamin Young: Thank you for getting that ready. We'll watch it closely.
Ted Thibodeau Jr.: Gregg has preferred tools for generating logs/minutes. Is anyone acquainted with them (or other shared tools)?
Benjamin Young: I will look at the code in the repo (probably code that Manu wrote, and I worked on).
Pierre-Antoine Champin: I did use those tools a few weeks ago. It went pretty smoothly, except for a timeout of a github action.
... More people looked on that.
... I'm in favour of keeping them running. The trickiest part is the size of the repo.
Benjamin Young: Moving to a static site hit upon that as well. The gh repo is very large.
... That timeout will probably increase, we may have to address that.
Benjamin Young: Do we have people able to pick up from Gregg?
Benjamin Young is scribing.
Niklas Lindström: I'd like to try
... in my current position is probably more on the JSON-LD Star aspect of this work
... and that's a bit tricky with separate repos, etc.
... but I'm not yet sure we're in dire need of an editor
... so, we may be fine
Ivan Herman: We have to be careful here
Ivan Herman: We have to be careful here.
... the reorganization of the charter means we're talking about v1.2
... which are all the technical changes on 1.1
... but not the new things from RDF 1.2
... we are planning to have a JSON-LD 1.3 to incubate during the WG
... We're talking about JSON-LD 1.2, with the editorial, errata, and so on. We will have a separate 1.3 which will be optional to start on.
... and toward the end move to a v1.3 publication toward the end of the group
... So at this point, 1.2 is not that.
Benjamin Young: I don't recall how many things are pending. We may need to analyze that in upcoming calls.
Niklas Lindström: There is one thing that I am almost ready to make a PR of
... and it's not Star/RDF-1.2 related
... it's already approved, but likely still need some changes
... so my contributions are not 100% RDF-1.2 related
Benjamin Young: We need to discuss co-chair and editor workloads
Pierre-Antoine Champin: A possibly crazy idea - we are struggling with the version numbers. Maybe adding nicknames as well (bear with me).
... What about calling the first one Gregg.
... Debian had names from Toy Story. What about using Kellogg mascots?
Ted Thibodeau Jr.: `1.1.5`? `1.1Bis`? and make eventual 1.2 sync with RDF 1.2?
Pierre-Antoine Champin: Mostly internal nicknames..
Ted Thibodeau Jr.: We could do worse than informally using Kellogg's mascots
I like it too.
Ivan Herman: We may consider something not associated too much with the name.
Benjamin Young: We can look for good names in that list and choose next meeting.
Ivan Herman: We should be careful about considering joint CG/WG meetings; especially for IPR reasons
Benjamin Young: I am currently the only chair for both groups. We should discuss how to proceed with the CG as well.
... The VC group has also done a good job of promoting JSON-LD.

Topic: Open Discussion

Benjamin Young: Bye all